Friday, February 22, 2013
Science night
This week's science night has been posted. The file to test is Sound Alike, a hypnosis file intended to help you mimic the voices of others. I admit, I have a slight ulterior motive with this file. I was hoping that we might get a few attempts at voicing scripts from first time voicebros. Something for peer review. We'll see hope it works out. Good luck all.
Q&A6
Quiles: So I was listening to the perfectly suggestible file and ended up drifting into sleep in the middle of the induction (I think, I remember the voice getting to the part where I was adding the 9th thought for the 7 +/- 2 induction) I proceeded to come to just as the “programming” part of the file started to play, in what seemed like a full trance (though these days I’m never entirely sure if I’m in a trance or not) and listened to the rest of the track fine. Would this have any affect on the programming?
Addendum: To clear it up, I meant that I think I ended up taking a short nap mid file, yet still 'woke up' tranced (unstable internet ftw). The rest of the info is still very useful (been having a bit of a disappointing lack of progress lately, hoping repeats of this file will help)
Quiles: Thanks for all the help! One more question - is there a limit to how much I should try tracks like (for either safety or effectiveness reasons).
Heavy inductions/ tracks like clear mind/perfectly suggestible.
Basically, you want to use the least that works. The least powerful induction, the least programming, etc. It is essentially impossible to overdo it with an induction... the don’t change your personality/self-image enough to have any negative effects. But there is no reason to go through a 30 minute induction+suggestion unless you need them.
Now, you said you were still having trouble with the effects, so I’d say continue on with Perfectly Suggestible. If you are not time limited, there isn’t really a reason not to use it as an induction. If it works, carry on.
This isn’t exactly on topic, but the same can’t be said for the pony files. you want to be careful about switching them out because the personality effects can overlay and cause Emotional Kernal Panic. overusing a single file can eventually cause problems... but ours are too weak. You’d have to be consciously adding memories or something of similar severity before a pony hypno file could have negative effects.
In summary, there isn’t any damage to using the files on the main page repeatedly, assuming you have the time ^-^
Resonance_Wave: So question about the trances, Are they purely imagination like feelings or will you also get a visual illusion eventually?
I'm answering seriously, although my answer my seem flippant. The only difference between imagined feelings and illusion is how deeply you believe it.
Visual illusion like seeing you own hooves though... that sort of thing is both difficult and rare (as far as I've heard)
Lunar Flight (Josh): How can I listen to the Induc. then loop just the Loop file? I’ve been looking around windows for a way to do this. Thanks in advance!
The Easiest way is to drag the Ind, drag in a loop, and then drag in the loop again (so you have two loops in one playlist). keep dragging the loop file to the playlist until you have 40+copies... you should be okay.
I’m doing a hypnosis study with a friend of mine. Basically guinea pig, and I will monitor him. Neither of us have any experience in this subject. Any suggestions or recommendations? -ILikePizza555 (note: we are using the TwiS files)
NOTES. You should take them. A few things to focus on: specific physical changes (Horn, front hoof, back hoof, rear, muzzle, tail, mane, and coat), Mental changes, change in voice. Also, note whether the triggers (both on and off) work well, and make DAMN sure that they are uncomfortable with any changes that occur.
Not many recommendations for the Twi files specifically, other than to try to impose a horn before the test scene (as soon as possible, in other words.)
Addendum: To clear it up, I meant that I think I ended up taking a short nap mid file, yet still 'woke up' tranced (unstable internet ftw). The rest of the info is still very useful (been having a bit of a disappointing lack of progress lately, hoping repeats of this file will help)
Yes and no. Hypnosis files work a little bit differently depending on how conscious the listener is. An unconscious listener has the potential for suggestions that they don’t already fear to become habits, something that sticks a bit longer and allows them to have believeable illusions/working triggers. When listened to consciously, the files act more as a guided thought or imagination experiment.
The difference in effects being that if you are awake during the ‘programming’ aspect, you won’t have the unconscious triggers/suggestion. COnscious listening is a not a bad thing, however, as there do exist fully conscious triggers and may make you more comfortable with the file.
Regardless, I’d suggest relistening until you can listen to the entire thing while tranced. It is just practice, after all, and ‘perseverance leads to success.’
hmm... Falling asleep during the induction is not a problem if you woke up for the programming itself. In fact, that just means the induction was more effective than needed. 7+-2 is a very strong induction, so I’m not entirely surprised that happened. Likely you won’t have any issues with falling asleep during the pony files themselves, nor from their introduction.
Quiles: Thanks for all the help! One more question - is there a limit to how much I should try tracks like (for either safety or effectiveness reasons).
Heavy inductions/ tracks like clear mind/perfectly suggestible.
Basically, you want to use the least that works. The least powerful induction, the least programming, etc. It is essentially impossible to overdo it with an induction... the don’t change your personality/self-image enough to have any negative effects. But there is no reason to go through a 30 minute induction+suggestion unless you need them.
Now, you said you were still having trouble with the effects, so I’d say continue on with Perfectly Suggestible. If you are not time limited, there isn’t really a reason not to use it as an induction. If it works, carry on.
This isn’t exactly on topic, but the same can’t be said for the pony files. you want to be careful about switching them out because the personality effects can overlay and cause Emotional Kernal Panic. overusing a single file can eventually cause problems... but ours are too weak. You’d have to be consciously adding memories or something of similar severity before a pony hypno file could have negative effects.
In summary, there isn’t any damage to using the files on the main page repeatedly, assuming you have the time ^-^
Resonance_Wave: So question about the trances, Are they purely imagination like feelings or will you also get a visual illusion eventually?
I'm answering seriously, although my answer my seem flippant. The only difference between imagined feelings and illusion is how deeply you believe it.
Visual illusion like seeing you own hooves though... that sort of thing is both difficult and rare (as far as I've heard)
Lunar Flight (Josh): How can I listen to the Induc. then loop just the Loop file? I’ve been looking around windows for a way to do this. Thanks in advance!
The Easiest way is to drag the Ind, drag in a loop, and then drag in the loop again (so you have two loops in one playlist). keep dragging the loop file to the playlist until you have 40+copies... you should be okay.
I’m doing a hypnosis study with a friend of mine. Basically guinea pig, and I will monitor him. Neither of us have any experience in this subject. Any suggestions or recommendations? -ILikePizza555 (note: we are using the TwiS files)
NOTES. You should take them. A few things to focus on: specific physical changes (Horn, front hoof, back hoof, rear, muzzle, tail, mane, and coat), Mental changes, change in voice. Also, note whether the triggers (both on and off) work well, and make DAMN sure that they are uncomfortable with any changes that occur.
Not many recommendations for the Twi files specifically, other than to try to impose a horn before the test scene (as soon as possible, in other words.)
Apologies
I'm sorry about the low post number this week. I slept an average of 4 hours a night from Monday to Thursday, and then made it up by sleeping 14 hours last night. I haven't been avoiding sleep for fun, of course; my week has been packed with exams and papers. Now I have caught up, however, and how to be continuing.
Looking at the many (unfinished) article drafts I've produced in the past weeks, I believe that holding myself to the stringent standards I set in the previous post is not only slowing down my writing, but is also killing my passion for it. As such, I'm going to drop those requirements. As much as I'd like this blog to appear scientific, and indeed be entirely scientific in method, I must admit that I am writing more for myself than for the public. As such, I will not hold the material here to higher standards than I require of myself...
Neo: I suppose the most obvious question is: how can I trust you?
The Oracle: Bingo. It is a pickle, no doubt about it. Bad news is there's no way you can really know if I'm here to help you or not, so it's really up to you. Just have to make up your own damn mind to either accept what I'm going to tell you, or reject it. Candy?
Looking at the many (unfinished) article drafts I've produced in the past weeks, I believe that holding myself to the stringent standards I set in the previous post is not only slowing down my writing, but is also killing my passion for it. As such, I'm going to drop those requirements. As much as I'd like this blog to appear scientific, and indeed be entirely scientific in method, I must admit that I am writing more for myself than for the public. As such, I will not hold the material here to higher standards than I require of myself...
Neo: I suppose the most obvious question is: how can I trust you?
The Oracle: Bingo. It is a pickle, no doubt about it. Bad news is there's no way you can really know if I'm here to help you or not, so it's really up to you. Just have to make up your own damn mind to either accept what I'm going to tell you, or reject it. Candy?
Sunday, February 17, 2013
Imaginative Specialization and Hypnosis
I'm trying to hold this to a higher scientific standard than most of my posts by referencing and providing reliability information. We will see how it turns out.
One of the biggest questions on everyone's mind when they first encounter hypnosis (assuming they aren't revolted, etc.) is "How will this effect me?" And of course, if you were to ask this question out of the blue, everyone who has tried it would respond "it is different for everyone." That is the truth, it is different. But there are a few ways to make educated guesses at what effects a new user can expect. Previously on this blog I've talked about models, namely mental models, and this is another one.
There is a theory called Representational Systems which attempts to model cognition. Specifically, I will be using the Preferred Representation Theory, and ignoring the majority of the rest of the page, which I have not personally tested. It is related to functionalism, as well. PRT seems to be heavily disfavored for response to external stimuli, but as regards to imagination it has not been adequately tested. I'm sorry to be using what could yet become pseudo-science, but it has fits what data I've collected thus far (an admittedly small sample size of 6).
Here is my summary of the idea. Every human has three functions by which they utilize imagination. The first is visual, the second auditory, the third kinesthetic. (I ignore olfactory because I've never seen a case of pure olfactory imagination). Everyone has a bit of each, and your skill in one type of imagination grows as you use it. Some people will have very well developed skills in an area before they start hypnosis, others will not. Some will have one function as much more powerful than another, others will have similar skill among two or all.
Once you know your skill in each, you will be better able to guess at the effects of a hypnosis file, which is processed primarily through sub-conscious imagination, much like dreams. Next up will be tests for how much skill you have in each and what that means as far as effects.
I'll admit here, I have almost no kinesthetic imagination, so I'm going to be asking for help with that post.
One of the biggest questions on everyone's mind when they first encounter hypnosis (assuming they aren't revolted, etc.) is "How will this effect me?" And of course, if you were to ask this question out of the blue, everyone who has tried it would respond "it is different for everyone." That is the truth, it is different. But there are a few ways to make educated guesses at what effects a new user can expect. Previously on this blog I've talked about models, namely mental models, and this is another one.
There is a theory called Representational Systems which attempts to model cognition. Specifically, I will be using the Preferred Representation Theory, and ignoring the majority of the rest of the page, which I have not personally tested. It is related to functionalism, as well. PRT seems to be heavily disfavored for response to external stimuli, but as regards to imagination it has not been adequately tested. I'm sorry to be using what could yet become pseudo-science, but it has fits what data I've collected thus far (an admittedly small sample size of 6).
Here is my summary of the idea. Every human has three functions by which they utilize imagination. The first is visual, the second auditory, the third kinesthetic. (I ignore olfactory because I've never seen a case of pure olfactory imagination). Everyone has a bit of each, and your skill in one type of imagination grows as you use it. Some people will have very well developed skills in an area before they start hypnosis, others will not. Some will have one function as much more powerful than another, others will have similar skill among two or all.
Once you know your skill in each, you will be better able to guess at the effects of a hypnosis file, which is processed primarily through sub-conscious imagination, much like dreams. Next up will be tests for how much skill you have in each and what that means as far as effects.
I'll admit here, I have almost no kinesthetic imagination, so I'm going to be asking for help with that post.
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