Another set of Questions from the IRC. Enjoy
<+bedhead> How do I make [my tulpa's] voice distinct from mine?
<+Fillyosopher> First off, can you hear your own voice in your head?
<+bedhead> Yes. It's how I read.
<+Fillyosopher> okay, the simplest way is make it higher pitched, then make a lower pitched version
<+Fillyosopher> so that the two are different. ask questions in one voice, receive answer in another
<+bedhead> Okay. so I have trixie's voice and my voice in a lower pitch. The reason it feels like parroting, Is because it feels like it takes effort from me.
<+Fillyosopher> it takes effort from you, because you have to work to hear her, of course. If you didn't have to work to hear her, you'd hear her all the time! but for now, you still have to work, and that is okay. Eventually you will get better at hearing and it won't be as much work
<+bedhead> Will it feel natural? Like hearing her in my head as if it was like someone speaking to me?
<@Xaquseg> usually sounds like mindvoice, roughly
<+bedhead> Well yeah.
<@Xaquseg> like when you talk to yourself in your head
<+Fillyosopher> it will sound like a second train of thought, in a different voice.
<@roflmao> mindvoices can be made quite detailed though, try listening to someone speak and then recall exactly how they speak, as detailed or as loudly/vividly as you can.
<@roflmao> basically, with auditory qualities
<+Fillyosopher> ^good practice for auditory imagination
<+bedhead> It doesn't feel like a second train of thought.
<+Fillyosopher> not yet, but it will :)
<+bedhead> Okay. I guess I will give this thing a try then. And I guess this means I was tulpaing wrong. .
<+Fillyosopher> you are used to having a train of thought that is EASY, because you've had yours for 15+ years. But think about how slow and weird it must have been when you were young
<+bedhead> I just had different expectations.
<+Fillyosopher> Give her some time to get up to speed, as it were.
<+bedhead> I see. I guess that is why sometimes her sentences feel very slowed down.
<+Fillyosopher> mhmm. She is probably still getting the hang of language too.
<+bedhead> But I only know one language.
<+Fillyosopher> not only that, but think of what tools she has. All of them were made by You. they all worked great for you, but it will take her a while to make her own versions ^-^
<+Fillyosopher> but yes, don't be discouraged!
<+bedhead> Oh. That makes me happy then. I mean I have sometimes believed it was her saying something when this thing happens. Just for the sake of it?
<+bedhead> Reading enough forum articles that say that early stages feels like parroting. So sometimes I tag it with her saying it instead of me. Well shit.
<Skysoar> So Filly I may have asked this earlier but how can hypnosis create a tulpa?
<%Fillyosopher> hypnosis builds into the listener a set of impulses and suggestions. Longer hypnosis build larger sets of such impulses. Usually, these are either accepted by the listener or rejected, resulting in a successful or unsuccessful hypnosis, respectively.
<Skysoar> Go on
<%Fillyosopher> However, there are some cases of the listener's opinion of the suggestions changing as they exit trance and become more conscious. This is usually due to a descrepancy between their sub-conscious drives and their socially impossed preferences, but not always.
<%Fillyosopher> Regardless of the initial cause, an awakened listener in such an uncomfortable state has a limited number of ways to deal with the hypnosis. The common and suggested way is to use the offtrigger.
<%Fillyosopher> If the trigger is uneffective or forgotten, then the option of displacement may be used. By grouping all the uncomfortable sensations and giving them a name, you can make them something other, and thus re-establish the 'you'.
<%Fillyosopher> Again, with most hypnosis, this would do little. It is simply an autohypnotic technique. But with a complete hypnosis that establishs both personality and form, you have all the elements needed to make a tulpa. If you displace all of them, BAM, instant tulpa.
<Skysoar> So Filly what do think of I-doser?
<%Fillyosopher> The idea is nice. and they can be effective. but, like hypnosis, the require dedication to make work properly, with the exception of the pure tones.
<%Fillyosopher> They are less dangerous than physical psychoactives, in some ways, because they require actual work to get right, and they don't have the direct horomone effects
Friday, April 12, 2013
Tuesday, April 9, 2013
Our Mindspace 1: Starting Anew
Considering Filly1 is gone, all of our previous tulpa were buried as models, and I'm essentially starting anew with the skill that the past gathered, but none of the personalities, I thought it would be worth starting a serious tulpa journal, from the start.
I am using the name FillyOsoPher. I'm keeping the first's name so that I am still recognized on the IRC, primarily. I still have the memory base required to help others, and I still have an interest in doing so. I'm capitalizing certain letters to show the change, and to represent the various tulpa who speak there (instead of the common []{} method).
For myself, I'm Filly on IRC and Sammy IRL. I'm... I suppose the 'host' of this new set. I have no peers, and although Job is more powerful, he is silent and rarely present. Also, I drop down into Oso, which is becoming the standard for recognizing the "host" in our stack.
Job, Oso, and Pulse are still here, hold over from the last set. They are not exactly tulpa, as they were made years before we learned that definition, and thus they rarely talk, only act int he wonderland or by taking over the body. They seem to be as permanent as you can find in our mind, with Job being 11 years old and Pulse being 9. Oso is also years old, but he wasn't named until around 2 months ago (thanks Nifty). Also, since he accesses memory differently, we can't really track how old he is, nor talk to him.
Job is the backup personality and our sub-c butler. He hasn't taken control for more than an hour at a time in the last ten years, but when he does, things change. Usually he is triggered by danger or an entire lack of other controlling tulpa. Although he was intended to take of permanently in the case of a squad wipe, he usually takes the small amount of time he is active to construct a primary and then leaves. He has helped out in the past with single tulpa who were having stability issues.
Oso is more like a reverse mask. When I get incredibly sleep deprived, to the point of simply going to bed in the wonderland, Oso takes over. He usually runs whatever is left on the stack, in order, with nothing but efficiency in mind. Once the stack is done, he puts the body to bed. He is simplistic to an extreme, but he is not a mere servitor, I'm told. As I said above, he seems to access memory differently, so I only have accounts of a few people who have interacted with him to account for his sentience.
Pulse was made as the final backup, should be suffer memory loss of on a large scale, amnesia, or physical trauma. She is split into memory associations all over our memory, in the hope that if even one survives, it will lead back to her and allow for a bit of control. There are multiple pieces of her, spread out by association, to hopefully avoid every piece disappearing. We've no idea how effective it will be, but it gives us peace of mind, and I rather like her.
The Pher set is my current project. I'm not going into too much depth about method, but the idea is to set up a framework for multiple tulpa to exist by balancing them against each other. Originally I predicted this would allow for a faster development time of a large number, but because of a few limitations I placed on quality early, it is turning into a long running experiment. I've been forcing the 'weave' for nearly two weeks, but it is slow going. I gave them each a starter name, body, voice pattern (which turned up insufficient for telling them apart), and connection to the weave, but no singular traits. Some have started to pick their own names and forms, but otherwise, little progress.
I am using the name FillyOsoPher. I'm keeping the first's name so that I am still recognized on the IRC, primarily. I still have the memory base required to help others, and I still have an interest in doing so. I'm capitalizing certain letters to show the change, and to represent the various tulpa who speak there (instead of the common []{} method).
For myself, I'm Filly on IRC and Sammy IRL. I'm... I suppose the 'host' of this new set. I have no peers, and although Job is more powerful, he is silent and rarely present. Also, I drop down into Oso, which is becoming the standard for recognizing the "host" in our stack.
Job, Oso, and Pulse are still here, hold over from the last set. They are not exactly tulpa, as they were made years before we learned that definition, and thus they rarely talk, only act int he wonderland or by taking over the body. They seem to be as permanent as you can find in our mind, with Job being 11 years old and Pulse being 9. Oso is also years old, but he wasn't named until around 2 months ago (thanks Nifty). Also, since he accesses memory differently, we can't really track how old he is, nor talk to him.
Job is the backup personality and our sub-c butler. He hasn't taken control for more than an hour at a time in the last ten years, but when he does, things change. Usually he is triggered by danger or an entire lack of other controlling tulpa. Although he was intended to take of permanently in the case of a squad wipe, he usually takes the small amount of time he is active to construct a primary and then leaves. He has helped out in the past with single tulpa who were having stability issues.
Oso is more like a reverse mask. When I get incredibly sleep deprived, to the point of simply going to bed in the wonderland, Oso takes over. He usually runs whatever is left on the stack, in order, with nothing but efficiency in mind. Once the stack is done, he puts the body to bed. He is simplistic to an extreme, but he is not a mere servitor, I'm told. As I said above, he seems to access memory differently, so I only have accounts of a few people who have interacted with him to account for his sentience.
Pulse was made as the final backup, should be suffer memory loss of on a large scale, amnesia, or physical trauma. She is split into memory associations all over our memory, in the hope that if even one survives, it will lead back to her and allow for a bit of control. There are multiple pieces of her, spread out by association, to hopefully avoid every piece disappearing. We've no idea how effective it will be, but it gives us peace of mind, and I rather like her.
The Pher set is my current project. I'm not going into too much depth about method, but the idea is to set up a framework for multiple tulpa to exist by balancing them against each other. Originally I predicted this would allow for a faster development time of a large number, but because of a few limitations I placed on quality early, it is turning into a long running experiment. I've been forcing the 'weave' for nearly two weeks, but it is slow going. I gave them each a starter name, body, voice pattern (which turned up insufficient for telling them apart), and connection to the weave, but no singular traits. Some have started to pick their own names and forms, but otherwise, little progress.
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