Another set of Questions from the IRC. Enjoy
<+bedhead> How do I make [my tulpa's] voice distinct from mine?
<+Fillyosopher> First off, can you hear your own voice in your head?
<+bedhead> Yes. It's how I read.
<+Fillyosopher> okay, the simplest way is make it higher pitched, then make a lower pitched version
<+Fillyosopher> so that the two are different. ask questions in one voice, receive answer in another
<+bedhead> Okay. so I have trixie's voice and my voice in a lower pitch. The reason it feels like parroting, Is because it feels like it takes effort from me.
<+Fillyosopher> it takes effort from you, because you have to work to hear her, of course. If you didn't have to work to hear her, you'd hear her all the time! but for now, you still have to work, and that is okay. Eventually you will get better at hearing and it won't be as much work
<+bedhead> Will it feel natural? Like hearing her in my head as if it was like someone speaking to me?
<@Xaquseg> usually sounds like mindvoice, roughly
<+bedhead> Well yeah.
<@Xaquseg> like when you talk to yourself in your head
<+Fillyosopher> it will sound like a second train of thought, in a different voice.
<@roflmao> mindvoices can be made quite detailed though, try listening to someone speak and then recall exactly how they speak, as detailed or as loudly/vividly as you can.
<@roflmao> basically, with auditory qualities
<+Fillyosopher> ^good practice for auditory imagination
<+bedhead> It doesn't feel like a second train of thought.
<+Fillyosopher> not yet, but it will :)
<+bedhead> Okay. I guess I will give this thing a try then. And I guess this means I was tulpaing wrong. .
<+Fillyosopher> you are used to having a train of thought that is EASY, because you've had yours for 15+ years. But think about how slow and weird it must have been when you were young
<+bedhead> I just had different expectations.
<+Fillyosopher> Give her some time to get up to speed, as it were.
<+bedhead> I see. I guess that is why sometimes her sentences feel very slowed down.
<+Fillyosopher> mhmm. She is probably still getting the hang of language too.
<+bedhead> But I only know one language.
<+Fillyosopher> not only that, but think of what tools she has. All of them were made by You. they all worked great for you, but it will take her a while to make her own versions ^-^
<+Fillyosopher> but yes, don't be discouraged!
<+bedhead> Oh. That makes me happy then. I mean I have sometimes believed it was her saying something when this thing happens. Just for the sake of it?
<+bedhead> Reading enough forum articles that say that early stages feels like parroting. So sometimes I tag it with her saying it instead of me. Well shit.
<Skysoar> So Filly I may have asked this earlier but how can hypnosis create a tulpa?
<%Fillyosopher> hypnosis builds into the listener a set of impulses and suggestions. Longer hypnosis build larger sets of such impulses. Usually, these are either accepted by the listener or rejected, resulting in a successful or unsuccessful hypnosis, respectively.
<Skysoar> Go on
<%Fillyosopher> However, there are some cases of the listener's opinion of the suggestions changing as they exit trance and become more conscious. This is usually due to a descrepancy between their sub-conscious drives and their socially impossed preferences, but not always.
<%Fillyosopher> Regardless of the initial cause, an awakened listener in such an uncomfortable state has a limited number of ways to deal with the hypnosis. The common and suggested way is to use the offtrigger.
<%Fillyosopher> If the trigger is uneffective or forgotten, then the option of displacement may be used. By grouping all the uncomfortable sensations and giving them a name, you can make them something other, and thus re-establish the 'you'.
<%Fillyosopher> Again, with most hypnosis, this would do little. It is simply an autohypnotic technique. But with a complete hypnosis that establishs both personality and form, you have all the elements needed to make a tulpa. If you displace all of them, BAM, instant tulpa.
<Skysoar> So Filly what do think of I-doser?
<%Fillyosopher> The idea is nice. and they can be effective. but, like hypnosis, the require dedication to make work properly, with the exception of the pure tones.
<%Fillyosopher> They are less dangerous than physical psychoactives, in some ways, because they require actual work to get right, and they don't have the direct horomone effects
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