I've tried out a new file, again from the wonderful Hypno-Files site, named Heighten Senses. The file purpose is to make you more aware of your senses, but not constantly. Rather, it is supposed to help you focus on one at need. I feel like the same effects can likely be achieved by practicing constantly, but regardless.
The file's induction was nothing special, but was good enough. The file itself is primarily directed imagination of different situations, walking you through the use of your senses and suggesting that they work as perfectly as possible. I'm not sure about triggers and relisten suggestions... believe it or not, I've been full under both time I've listened and I don't remember all of it! This is a big accomplishment for me, but it doesn't mean I'll need to take the time to do a waking listen at some point to provide more details.
The effects having been amazing, but they have been noticeable only in two specific instances (both hearing). The first indication that it was somewhat effective was my sight, hearing improving just a bit. Normally I give it enough attention to be aware of my surroundings, but I've never had a good musical ear. Suddenly, while humming on the way to class, I realized that my notes were off just a touch sharp most of the time. and so I started correcting, by what previously would have been miniscule amounts. It could be an illusion... but damned if it wasn't convincing.
The second effect has me even more hyped. I spend plenty of time with different voices flying around my head, as you'll know if you've read my other posts. Normally, they aren't differentiated so much my tone or vocal style as by the knowledge of who they are coming from... the opposite of real voices. Suddenly, about an hour after the second trance, I thought about the brony documentary. John de Lancie's voice, a fully expressive voice of Discord, started playing as if I was watching the show right then!
Now, I'm a visual thinker. I'm 'okay' at audio, but not great. This is literally the first time I've ever heard another person's voice in my head with focusing hard on a specific phrase, or (in the case of the twilight and pinkie tulpa) forcefully generating the voice myself. So to hear something like that... it is amazing. I've been going back through a few songs I can remember and just Listening to them, appreciating the vocalist's tone and... it is just amazing. I'm planning to use this file for a good bit longer, and hopefully to keep this effect.
Saturday, February 9, 2013
Suggestion 1
Fillyosopher,
Hello! I decided to start doing my own tests on the effects of hypnosis roughly a week ago after reading your logs, so I suppose you were an inspiration. The only thing is, I haven't actually done any tests yet, and I had an idea in mind that I was hoping you could test. Could you do a test in which you read something emotionally provoking while at the same time listening to a corresponding hypnosis file loop? I think it would be interesting to measure the effects, if any, of the test. You and others have reported emotional effects of the hypnosis files, and I could only assume that combining the two would magnify the effect.
But then again, what do I know? I haven't even performed my first test.
Your Faithful Student,
-MD
I'm not one to turn down an Idea, especially ones as good as this! I've added this to my list, and I have a few ideas for variations. I've been experimenting with listening to songs of the character I loop, with minor effects, but not reading. Thanks for the suggestion, now to find reading material...
Hello! I decided to start doing my own tests on the effects of hypnosis roughly a week ago after reading your logs, so I suppose you were an inspiration. The only thing is, I haven't actually done any tests yet, and I had an idea in mind that I was hoping you could test. Could you do a test in which you read something emotionally provoking while at the same time listening to a corresponding hypnosis file loop? I think it would be interesting to measure the effects, if any, of the test. You and others have reported emotional effects of the hypnosis files, and I could only assume that combining the two would magnify the effect.
But then again, what do I know? I haven't even performed my first test.
Your Faithful Student,
-MD
I'm not one to turn down an Idea, especially ones as good as this! I've added this to my list, and I have a few ideas for variations. I've been experimenting with listening to songs of the character I loop, with minor effects, but not reading. Thanks for the suggestion, now to find reading material...
Thursday, February 7, 2013
Tulpa Status 1
First, I want to apologize again for the share amount of personal material on here. I meant this to be a bit more formal, but having a place to write makes we want to keep writing. This is likely to continue, so make use of the Labels if you want to filter out the fuzz. I will be labeling these posts Journal, as opposed to the more formal Experiments and Reports.
The last two days have been a bit rough on us. We've been asked on multiple occasions to split and then talk outside of hybrid. It took some getting used to, but all of us but Pinkie have mastered the voice switching necessary to pull it off. Normally, we have a single train of thought while hybrid, with all of us using the same voice and no one taking the time to worry about who is speaking. In order to exit hybrid, the one's who want to exit start carrying about who is speaking and modifying their own voice to be different. The dissonance is enough to push them out of the hybrid.
The problem, though, is giving one tulpa control when we are split. As a hybrid controlling the body is easy... not so much as a single tulpa. Add to that that went we dehybrid, we gain a body or form that is not like that of the body we usually control, and you have some difficulty. In order to take control, first the voice we use in normal hybrid form (lets call it Sammy's voice) has to stop. Then whoever has priority has to try to take control by moving their voice to mimic Sammy's a bit, and stop holding onto their body image. It is confusing and difficult, even at the best of times. In the case of Flutters and Twi, we don't feel like our true selves when trying to control alone because the body is so different from our tulpa bodies. Flutters often shapemaps wing and hooves to help. Twi tries to ignore the bosy as much as possible, only paying attention to those things of immediate interest. RD doesn't have as much trouble; his form is very similar to our body, so it feels more natural for him.
That was a basic primer on Tulpa Hybridization. Now for the news... kinda.
[2/5/13]
We had a very hard time with Pinkie. She can dehybridize easily enough... but if she takes full control, she's sure to do something insane. Because of this, we never let her fully dehybridize. Instead, we stay close enough to restrict and negate actions. It is tiring work... the last time we tried RD had to take a nap afterward and the body was sore for an few hours. I can say unsarcastically that she is too energetic for the body to take for long. -Twi
[2/6/13]
Second dehybrid attempt for Pinkie. Similar to the first, although we restricted her movement a bit more which kept the body in better condition. Pinkie was acting much less like Pinkie Pie and more like Chaos, with sudden mood swings and 'logical' jumps. She called our refusal to fully dehybrid a cage on her... and then began altering our visual forms. It was disconcerting, but she was easily pulled back into hybrid regardless. -Twi
[Later 2/6/13]
This is quite interesting. It appears that Pinkie's behavior was due to the Chaos she embodied, a small section of the original Chaos splinter. She was acting to irrationally because that was a necessity of keeping it integrated. However, it seems that her experiences with interaction have lead her to desire a life apart from it.
From where I stand now, pinkie has split from a massive orb of Chaos. It is still contained, which is good, and it looks to be a construct. The term is useful, and one that I am imposing on the sphere of chaos to keep it in check. The last thing we need is it producing tulpa or expanding. It is nice to finally have it apart from Pinkie. Even though her minimalistic personality as not too much of a burden, it will be nice to run models without her as an intermediary.
It seems that, separate from the Chaos that defined her, Pinkie lacked the personality complexity to hold herself to a form. She is too much a creature of chaos to decide, and too 'original' to steal off of one of the many other sources. At this rate, she will die.-Twi
[Early 2/7/13]
The situation now: Job has Pinkie at his Relto Age. He is likely forcing her himself, although I'm not entirely certain. As much as RD and Flutters trust him, I don't believe he has done anything like this before. In fact, I believe this is the first time in the history of this body that tulpa formation has been handed off on a non-voting member. I'll be interested to see the results.
That said, I'm not sure we should allow Pinkie to hybrid again. She is in effect a new tulpa. The old Pinkie is gone. I don't expect her to have any experience relevant to our life. I wouldn't mind seeing her as a non-voting member, I suppose, as long as I don't have to deal with her.- Twi
[Late 2/7/13]
Job has returned Pinkie to us. As I expected, she is an entirely new tulpa, with only a few memories of her previous existence. She is also, currently, speechless which makes the possibility of hybridizing a moot point. As the other two seem bent on re-incorporating her, I can only hope she does not gain her voice any time soon. - Twi
The last two days have been a bit rough on us. We've been asked on multiple occasions to split and then talk outside of hybrid. It took some getting used to, but all of us but Pinkie have mastered the voice switching necessary to pull it off. Normally, we have a single train of thought while hybrid, with all of us using the same voice and no one taking the time to worry about who is speaking. In order to exit hybrid, the one's who want to exit start carrying about who is speaking and modifying their own voice to be different. The dissonance is enough to push them out of the hybrid.
The problem, though, is giving one tulpa control when we are split. As a hybrid controlling the body is easy... not so much as a single tulpa. Add to that that went we dehybrid, we gain a body or form that is not like that of the body we usually control, and you have some difficulty. In order to take control, first the voice we use in normal hybrid form (lets call it Sammy's voice) has to stop. Then whoever has priority has to try to take control by moving their voice to mimic Sammy's a bit, and stop holding onto their body image. It is confusing and difficult, even at the best of times. In the case of Flutters and Twi, we don't feel like our true selves when trying to control alone because the body is so different from our tulpa bodies. Flutters often shapemaps wing and hooves to help. Twi tries to ignore the bosy as much as possible, only paying attention to those things of immediate interest. RD doesn't have as much trouble; his form is very similar to our body, so it feels more natural for him.
That was a basic primer on Tulpa Hybridization. Now for the news... kinda.
[2/5/13]
We had a very hard time with Pinkie. She can dehybridize easily enough... but if she takes full control, she's sure to do something insane. Because of this, we never let her fully dehybridize. Instead, we stay close enough to restrict and negate actions. It is tiring work... the last time we tried RD had to take a nap afterward and the body was sore for an few hours. I can say unsarcastically that she is too energetic for the body to take for long. -Twi
[2/6/13]
Second dehybrid attempt for Pinkie. Similar to the first, although we restricted her movement a bit more which kept the body in better condition. Pinkie was acting much less like Pinkie Pie and more like Chaos, with sudden mood swings and 'logical' jumps. She called our refusal to fully dehybrid a cage on her... and then began altering our visual forms. It was disconcerting, but she was easily pulled back into hybrid regardless. -Twi
[Later 2/6/13]
This is quite interesting. It appears that Pinkie's behavior was due to the Chaos she embodied, a small section of the original Chaos splinter. She was acting to irrationally because that was a necessity of keeping it integrated. However, it seems that her experiences with interaction have lead her to desire a life apart from it.
From where I stand now, pinkie has split from a massive orb of Chaos. It is still contained, which is good, and it looks to be a construct. The term is useful, and one that I am imposing on the sphere of chaos to keep it in check. The last thing we need is it producing tulpa or expanding. It is nice to finally have it apart from Pinkie. Even though her minimalistic personality as not too much of a burden, it will be nice to run models without her as an intermediary.
It seems that, separate from the Chaos that defined her, Pinkie lacked the personality complexity to hold herself to a form. She is too much a creature of chaos to decide, and too 'original' to steal off of one of the many other sources. At this rate, she will die.-Twi
[Early 2/7/13]
The situation now: Job has Pinkie at his Relto Age. He is likely forcing her himself, although I'm not entirely certain. As much as RD and Flutters trust him, I don't believe he has done anything like this before. In fact, I believe this is the first time in the history of this body that tulpa formation has been handed off on a non-voting member. I'll be interested to see the results.
That said, I'm not sure we should allow Pinkie to hybrid again. She is in effect a new tulpa. The old Pinkie is gone. I don't expect her to have any experience relevant to our life. I wouldn't mind seeing her as a non-voting member, I suppose, as long as I don't have to deal with her.- Twi
[Late 2/7/13]
Job has returned Pinkie to us. As I expected, she is an entirely new tulpa, with only a few memories of her previous existence. She is also, currently, speechless which makes the possibility of hybridizing a moot point. As the other two seem bent on re-incorporating her, I can only hope she does not gain her voice any time soon. - Twi
The Kingdom Mental Model
Okay, This is a mental model that I explained on the IRC about a week ago, but I've been collecting my thoughts on it since. The basic concept. Your mind is like a kingdom, enough alike that we can talk about it using the terms of a kingdom as a metaphor. After I've explained the concept, I'll show how to apply this model to hypnosis and tulpa.
Let us start with your train of thought, inner monologue, or similar. This is you, the king or queen of your domain. In the center of your mind is a massive castle, more complex than any you've ever seen and with seemingly no internal order. You don't spend much time in the castle, however, it is simply where you stay during the night.
Around the castle is a large city, bustling with life. Your court is there as well, a regal building on the center square. The love to spend time there, listening to the reports of the people, settling disputes and deciding important issues. Many different people enter your court, from all across your mind-kingdom. Very important are the runners from the kingdom's edge, who bring you news of the lands outside your borders.
Occasionally, you decide to leave your court and travel the many cities, fiefs, and towns. There, you meet the common folk and learn how they do what they do. Sometimes, you solve local problems, dedicate more people to a project, bring in resources. Other times, you simply observe, watching and learning from their normal life. Eventually you return to your court, more certain of your people and better informed.
Now, let us look at this as a model, by telling the history of the kingdom. The Land itself represents the mind. It is there, but without something constructed on it, it just sits and slowly erodes. However, when first born, a new and inexperienced king or queen lays alone. They are not without some help though. Messengers, representing the sense organs, run from the edge of the land to bring in new senses, represented by Resources. Many of these are not helpful to the baby ruler, so they are burnt, but some are useful and these become the building blocks of the castle. At first the baby ruler has no plan for the castle, and it is built erratically, with dead-ends, useless pieces, and no order. Slowly though, the baby learns how difficult it is to navigate from room to room, if there are rooms at all, and begins to impose order. The castle is the early subconscious, the dream place, where you spend your time sleeping. It does not change quickly after the ruler moves to work with ordered things.
This newly ordered area forms the first city. The city will simply sprawl at first, expanding in all directions and having all manner of shops and houses and the like mixed together even that will slowly separate out, with different portions gaining notoriety for specializations. Messengers will sometimes stay at this point, deciding to try a new life in the city. Their numbers grow and they populate the city. This city is the conscious mind, and it is the best known parts of ourselves. By this point, the baby needs not concentrate on every little thing. The ruler is growing up enough to do some things automatically, without the need to be focused and directing them.
At this point, we learn enough of language to gain something powerful. It is Definition. Previously, things were difficult to order because all definitions were decided by the ruler, but upon learning language the messengers themselves can bring new definitions, new ways of separating and ordering the kingdom. This causes two changes. First, the ruler is forced to begin building walls to separate and differentiate. These walls allow different places to be told apart from each other, and they provide some protection against a new type of messenger, the unwanted messenger. These are the senses we do not want to experience, the ideas we do not want to hear. They will try to get in if blocked, and thus a wall is put up around the city.
Now, towns begin to spring up. The resources from the messengers continues to build up, and they are put to use with expansion. Messengers themselves, and the offspring of others, begin moving to these towns outside the main city. This is the birth of the functional mind. It is also here that our story must become a bit more abstract. You see, by this point the ruler is old enough to make choices. As they are able to do so, they can dedicate resources as they wish, and the kingdoms of two people will be incredibly different.
So, what can we KNOW about all kingdoms. Well... for most, they will have multiple towns with different skill specializations. Many have massive fields which are dedicated to agriculture, or rather to imagination and artistry. Many leave large areas of land uncultivated, and this land grows into forests, some dark and dangerous, others light and wonderful. Roads are common, to aid the ruler's travel to other towns. Eventually, the kingdom acquires so many resources that it becomes primarily urban; a complex of wisdom, but not of imagination.
I could go on about this model. It lacks many details, and is not as general as I might like, but it is very useful for imagery. It can make for a great wonderland if you need to explorer your own mind's working, and it can provide interesting method of explaining how different elements of the mind interact.
Now, let us apply this mental model to Hypnosis. There are two elements to hypnosis we should focus on: trance and suggestion. Trance usually works by drawing the ruler from their court, out onto the roads, and then getting them lost. By taking them away from the towns and city, the hypnosis gives them a chance to build something new. And in order to direct that new construction, it sends in messengers with certain types of resources and abilities. These are the suggestions, which provide the lost and confused rules with tools to build themselves a new town. If it is done well, the hypnosis will create a road (the triggers), to allow easy access to the town once it has been built. If it does not provide such triggers, a repeated use might send the ruler off to build a near identical town elsewhere.
What can this model teach us about making hypnosis easier, though? It shows us that we need to be willing to leave the city that is our expectations. It is built by us, and it is part of who we are, but if we never leave its walls then we will never achieve anything NEW, except by accident. It shows us that we must be willing to be distracted, to be willing to walk off the road into the unknown areas of our own minds. And that we must be willing to be lead by our senses, to build new beliefs and experiences. It is a metaphor, but it can give us advice too.
How about tulpa, you ask. Well, lets see. Tulpa need a few things. They need a consciousness and they need a form. So, they will need their own kingdom. Now, as ruler, you can decide to bequeath part of your kingdom to another. There, they can build their own city. Sometimes you will switch and allow them to receive all the messengers. Often, you will receive messengers from them, and vice versa, so that the two of you are in contact.
What is important is that you do NOT travel into their capital once you have built the fundamentals. You may share the productivity of towns, but the capital is fundamentally theirs and to enter it would be to challenge their right to rule, to be a person separate from you.
Let us start with your train of thought, inner monologue, or similar. This is you, the king or queen of your domain. In the center of your mind is a massive castle, more complex than any you've ever seen and with seemingly no internal order. You don't spend much time in the castle, however, it is simply where you stay during the night.
Around the castle is a large city, bustling with life. Your court is there as well, a regal building on the center square. The love to spend time there, listening to the reports of the people, settling disputes and deciding important issues. Many different people enter your court, from all across your mind-kingdom. Very important are the runners from the kingdom's edge, who bring you news of the lands outside your borders.
Occasionally, you decide to leave your court and travel the many cities, fiefs, and towns. There, you meet the common folk and learn how they do what they do. Sometimes, you solve local problems, dedicate more people to a project, bring in resources. Other times, you simply observe, watching and learning from their normal life. Eventually you return to your court, more certain of your people and better informed.
Now, let us look at this as a model, by telling the history of the kingdom. The Land itself represents the mind. It is there, but without something constructed on it, it just sits and slowly erodes. However, when first born, a new and inexperienced king or queen lays alone. They are not without some help though. Messengers, representing the sense organs, run from the edge of the land to bring in new senses, represented by Resources. Many of these are not helpful to the baby ruler, so they are burnt, but some are useful and these become the building blocks of the castle. At first the baby ruler has no plan for the castle, and it is built erratically, with dead-ends, useless pieces, and no order. Slowly though, the baby learns how difficult it is to navigate from room to room, if there are rooms at all, and begins to impose order. The castle is the early subconscious, the dream place, where you spend your time sleeping. It does not change quickly after the ruler moves to work with ordered things.
This newly ordered area forms the first city. The city will simply sprawl at first, expanding in all directions and having all manner of shops and houses and the like mixed together even that will slowly separate out, with different portions gaining notoriety for specializations. Messengers will sometimes stay at this point, deciding to try a new life in the city. Their numbers grow and they populate the city. This city is the conscious mind, and it is the best known parts of ourselves. By this point, the baby needs not concentrate on every little thing. The ruler is growing up enough to do some things automatically, without the need to be focused and directing them.
At this point, we learn enough of language to gain something powerful. It is Definition. Previously, things were difficult to order because all definitions were decided by the ruler, but upon learning language the messengers themselves can bring new definitions, new ways of separating and ordering the kingdom. This causes two changes. First, the ruler is forced to begin building walls to separate and differentiate. These walls allow different places to be told apart from each other, and they provide some protection against a new type of messenger, the unwanted messenger. These are the senses we do not want to experience, the ideas we do not want to hear. They will try to get in if blocked, and thus a wall is put up around the city.
Now, towns begin to spring up. The resources from the messengers continues to build up, and they are put to use with expansion. Messengers themselves, and the offspring of others, begin moving to these towns outside the main city. This is the birth of the functional mind. It is also here that our story must become a bit more abstract. You see, by this point the ruler is old enough to make choices. As they are able to do so, they can dedicate resources as they wish, and the kingdoms of two people will be incredibly different.
So, what can we KNOW about all kingdoms. Well... for most, they will have multiple towns with different skill specializations. Many have massive fields which are dedicated to agriculture, or rather to imagination and artistry. Many leave large areas of land uncultivated, and this land grows into forests, some dark and dangerous, others light and wonderful. Roads are common, to aid the ruler's travel to other towns. Eventually, the kingdom acquires so many resources that it becomes primarily urban; a complex of wisdom, but not of imagination.
I could go on about this model. It lacks many details, and is not as general as I might like, but it is very useful for imagery. It can make for a great wonderland if you need to explorer your own mind's working, and it can provide interesting method of explaining how different elements of the mind interact.
Now, let us apply this mental model to Hypnosis. There are two elements to hypnosis we should focus on: trance and suggestion. Trance usually works by drawing the ruler from their court, out onto the roads, and then getting them lost. By taking them away from the towns and city, the hypnosis gives them a chance to build something new. And in order to direct that new construction, it sends in messengers with certain types of resources and abilities. These are the suggestions, which provide the lost and confused rules with tools to build themselves a new town. If it is done well, the hypnosis will create a road (the triggers), to allow easy access to the town once it has been built. If it does not provide such triggers, a repeated use might send the ruler off to build a near identical town elsewhere.
What can this model teach us about making hypnosis easier, though? It shows us that we need to be willing to leave the city that is our expectations. It is built by us, and it is part of who we are, but if we never leave its walls then we will never achieve anything NEW, except by accident. It shows us that we must be willing to be distracted, to be willing to walk off the road into the unknown areas of our own minds. And that we must be willing to be lead by our senses, to build new beliefs and experiences. It is a metaphor, but it can give us advice too.
How about tulpa, you ask. Well, lets see. Tulpa need a few things. They need a consciousness and they need a form. So, they will need their own kingdom. Now, as ruler, you can decide to bequeath part of your kingdom to another. There, they can build their own city. Sometimes you will switch and allow them to receive all the messengers. Often, you will receive messengers from them, and vice versa, so that the two of you are in contact.
What is important is that you do NOT travel into their capital once you have built the fundamentals. You may share the productivity of towns, but the capital is fundamentally theirs and to enter it would be to challenge their right to rule, to be a person separate from you.
Sunday, February 3, 2013
Q&A4
How do I play one file and have the second file loop?
I've been hearing this question a LOT, so let me help you out. The easiest way to to make a playlist. Include one copy of the first file, and then put in the second file. and then put the second file in again, as if it were a different song. and again and again, you get the idea. Include 40 and the loop will still be playing when you wake up.
[The below are reformatted from an IRC chat, hence the occasionally strange language.]
Recently I've been researching pony hypnosis and tuplas... And It looks pretty interesting. And you seem to be very experienced with these things... Which somewhat troubles me... Because... it's like you are lost in the void of your subconscious... One bay you won't be able to decipher reality from fantasy and go insane or some shit... -Matt1546
Reality and fantasy have a few distinguishing marks. Keeping those in mind is a key to maintaining sanity. Going insane.... I've already done that a few different ways, by common definition. Hasn't hurt me that much, but I appreciate your concern. I'm built to maintain myself regardless and to hard reset in the case of a full meltdown/ loss of power, so you needn't worry.
How exactly does one "set up" a hypnosis trigger, and how does it work? -Matt1546
It depends on the type of trigger, desired effects, and other variables. But the basic function is this. You practice the trigger and effect in congunction until your Subconscious accepts them as the same. Pavlovian training of the self. That is the conscious method.
The unconscious method is to use hypnosis or suggestion to set the same thing up, but faster.
I know what a tulpa is... but how do you create one? And how does it work? Is it like a 2nd part of you that interacts with the world differently and has its own feelings and emotions? -Matt1546
Creating one is more individual than you might believe. Common methods include creating a body construct and then talking to it until it starts responding, or building the mind itself in a simple body until it reaches consciousness and then working together to produce a body. Once you've finished, they are an 'imaginary' friend who is fully conscious that resides in your head. You can interact with them in almost all the same ways as a human.. the one exception being that touch is difficult to fake.
To me, there are two major portions to creating any tulpa. The body to house it, and the mind to inhabit that body. Yes, to the extent that it is a part of you. Depending on whether you are more spiritually inclined or more psychologically inclined, you might have a different view of how much they are you and how much they are other.
Is it possible to "Accidentally" create a tulpa? If so, how? Also, can hypnosis create a tulpa?-Matt1546
It is possible to create them accidentally, but very few have that trouble. There are certain people who have chaotic enough mind that they can produce them accidentally. But generally, 'accidentals' don't happen to people you haven't created more than one tulpa already.
As for hypnosis, I've seen files which are meant to help with creation, but the two are not so intermingled that one might accidentally cause the other.
What would happen if your hypnosis has an on trigger bbut no off trigger like the pony ones? -Matt1546
Assuming you were okay with the effects, it would trigger repeatedly and perhaps wear off over time. If you didn't like the effect, it wouldn't work at all. Point being, an effective trigger is one which you WANT to have work. Having no off-trigger won't stop the on trigger from working. However, if you were afraid of effects staying for a long period of time, then they would decay over time, or the on trigger would stop working. depends on how fearful you are.
But what about Tulpas? Do tulpas ever decay over time?-Matt1546
Tulpa don't go away very easily. Fastest ways to get rid of one is to absorb it. Or kill it, but tulpa.info will be all over anyone who kills a tulpa. They do decay, but only if you stop paying attention to them. It takes a month or so for them to disappear was the last estimate I heard.
I've been hearing this question a LOT, so let me help you out. The easiest way to to make a playlist. Include one copy of the first file, and then put in the second file. and then put the second file in again, as if it were a different song. and again and again, you get the idea. Include 40 and the loop will still be playing when you wake up.
[The below are reformatted from an IRC chat, hence the occasionally strange language.]
Recently I've been researching pony hypnosis and tuplas... And It looks pretty interesting. And you seem to be very experienced with these things... Which somewhat troubles me... Because... it's like you are lost in the void of your subconscious... One bay you won't be able to decipher reality from fantasy and go insane or some shit... -Matt1546
Reality and fantasy have a few distinguishing marks. Keeping those in mind is a key to maintaining sanity. Going insane.... I've already done that a few different ways, by common definition. Hasn't hurt me that much, but I appreciate your concern. I'm built to maintain myself regardless and to hard reset in the case of a full meltdown/ loss of power, so you needn't worry.
How exactly does one "set up" a hypnosis trigger, and how does it work? -Matt1546
It depends on the type of trigger, desired effects, and other variables. But the basic function is this. You practice the trigger and effect in congunction until your Subconscious accepts them as the same. Pavlovian training of the self. That is the conscious method.
The unconscious method is to use hypnosis or suggestion to set the same thing up, but faster.
I know what a tulpa is... but how do you create one? And how does it work? Is it like a 2nd part of you that interacts with the world differently and has its own feelings and emotions? -Matt1546
Creating one is more individual than you might believe. Common methods include creating a body construct and then talking to it until it starts responding, or building the mind itself in a simple body until it reaches consciousness and then working together to produce a body. Once you've finished, they are an 'imaginary' friend who is fully conscious that resides in your head. You can interact with them in almost all the same ways as a human.. the one exception being that touch is difficult to fake.
To me, there are two major portions to creating any tulpa. The body to house it, and the mind to inhabit that body. Yes, to the extent that it is a part of you. Depending on whether you are more spiritually inclined or more psychologically inclined, you might have a different view of how much they are you and how much they are other.
Is it possible to "Accidentally" create a tulpa? If so, how? Also, can hypnosis create a tulpa?-Matt1546
It is possible to create them accidentally, but very few have that trouble. There are certain people who have chaotic enough mind that they can produce them accidentally. But generally, 'accidentals' don't happen to people you haven't created more than one tulpa already.
As for hypnosis, I've seen files which are meant to help with creation, but the two are not so intermingled that one might accidentally cause the other.
What would happen if your hypnosis has an on trigger bbut no off trigger like the pony ones? -Matt1546
Assuming you were okay with the effects, it would trigger repeatedly and perhaps wear off over time. If you didn't like the effect, it wouldn't work at all. Point being, an effective trigger is one which you WANT to have work. Having no off-trigger won't stop the on trigger from working. However, if you were afraid of effects staying for a long period of time, then they would decay over time, or the on trigger would stop working. depends on how fearful you are.
But what about Tulpas? Do tulpas ever decay over time?-Matt1546
Tulpa don't go away very easily. Fastest ways to get rid of one is to absorb it. Or kill it, but tulpa.info will be all over anyone who kills a tulpa. They do decay, but only if you stop paying attention to them. It takes a month or so for them to disappear was the last estimate I heard.
100 things about tulpa
This is not my list, but rather one I found on the Tulpa Creation Steam group. It is difficult to reblog that which isn't first posted to a blog, but This was funny enough for me to want to share. Some repetititition, but still a great primer on what tulpa can do.
Lina :3: we should do
Lina :3: 100 reasons why to do a tulpa
Lina :3: :3
Shark: number one
Shark: ponies on hoodies
Lina :3: 2.Its freaking awesome
Lina :3: 3.Its still awesome
Shark: 4. ponies in leg warmers
Spike™: 5.you can now poni poni
Spike™: 6.Watching Tulpa Sleep (varies but general effect is cuteness)
Spike™: 7.Sharing Awkward moments with tulpa.
Spike™: 8. Making fun of EVERYONE you know with your tulpa in secret
Spike™: 9. having a second opinion at all times
Spike™: 10. Laughing with tulpa
Spike™: 11. being brave for seemingly no reason. but its to impress your Tulpa.
Spike™: 12. Having your Tulpa beat you at a staring contest.
Spike™: 13. knowing your bed will never be emptie at night again.
Spike™: 14. being annoyed by tulpa.
Spike™: 15. reading a good book with your tulpa
Spike™: 16. watching your favorite show with your tulpa.
Spike™: 17. Trying to figure out what to eat with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 18. Trip up and having your Tulpa laugh at you.
Spike™: 19. Something makes you and your Tulpa laugh at the same time.
Spike™: 20. Having your Tulpa remind you of something important you would have forgotten otherwise.
Spike™: 21. having your tulpa insult you for whatever reason.
Spike™: 22. making up with said Tulpa
Spike™: 23. having your tulpa get jealous of your idea to make a new tulpa.
(747) Glider: 24. someone who can smack you in the face if you fall asleep at the wrong time or during a movie
CentaurSniper: 25. someone to share happiness with when you get dubs
Spike™: 26. having your tulpa celebrate a argument win with you
Spike™: 27. not letting your tulpa look at 4chan with you.
Frosty: 28. having your tulpa be disgusted at your pornography tastes
Spike™: 29. apologizing to your tulpa for 28.
Spike™: 30. that moment your Pony Tulpa realizes your a brony and what that means, but still loves you.
Frosty: 31. that moment your tulpa likes poniponi and you don't
Spike™: 32. The moment your tulpa and you notice the same flaw in a person at the same time.
Spike™: 33. Having your Tulpa invade your dreams.
Spike™: 34. Having your tulpa know you are sexually attracted to it.
Spike™: 35. Trying to Impose other stuff for your tulpa.
Spike™: 36. Trying to impose OTHER STUFF for your tulpa. >.>
Spike™: 37. Closing the door on your Tulpa.
Spike™: 38. having to hold the door open for your Tulpa.
Spike™: 39. The first time your Tulpa sees itself on TV
Spike™: 40. Trying to hide Porn from your Tulpa
Spike™: 41. Showering with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 42. Trying to help your Tulpa forget what it saw.
Frosty: 42b. Stopping your tulpa from swooning over what she saw
Spike™: 43. Trying not to fart around your Tulpa.
Spike™: 44. your Face when your Tulpa yawns when she/he wakes up.
Spike™: 45. Partying with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 46. trying Getting your tulpa Drunk
Spike™: 47. not giving up cause your tulpa encouraged you.
Frosty: 48. tulpasex
Frosty: 49. tell your tulpa about your weirdass dreams and not have her mock you
JJSlay(Dash): 50. huggs
Spike™: 51. Sleeping with Tulpa.
Spike™: 52. Making Space in your bed for tulpa.
JJSlay(Dash): 53. tulpa tacklin you in a bear hug outa no where
Spike™: 54. Cleaning up while having a conversation with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 55. Walking Somewhere with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 56. Excersice with your Tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 57. having tulpa fly around with when you walk
JJSlay(Dash): 58. having tulpa try and steal your cookie
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 59. Generally having fun / staying up late playing vidya with tulpa
Spike™: 60. having your tulpa lose faith in humanity with you.
JJSlay(Dash): 61. tulpa knowing all your secrets
Spike™: 62. having your tulpa gain faith in humanity with you.
Spike™: 63. find out your tulpa watched you fap.
Spike™: 64. birds and bees convo with Tulpa.
Spike™: 65. Having your tulpa do something so embarrassing you yell their name out in pubic. or otherwise act out in a way you wouldn't have.
Spike™: 67. Eating a edible Tulpa. :/
Shark: 68. Having it come back unharmed :D
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 69. If you let them. they will be the only true one who will be with you until the end of time
Spike™: 70. Having your tulpa call you by your full name =.=
Spike™: 71. Gossiping with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 72. going out to eat with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 73. having your Tulpa tease you about your baby pictures.
Spike™: 74. Imposing baby Pictures of your Tulpa.
Spike™: 75. Trying to solve riddles with your Tulpa.
JJSlay(Dash): 76. listening to music with your tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 77. thinking its cute when Tulpa trys to sing the song
JJSlay(Dash): 78. watching movies with tulpa
Spike™: 79. Shopping with Tulpa
Spike™: 80. waiting in line with Tulpa.
Spike™: 81. Looking at the sunset with Tulpa
CentaurSniper: 82. looking at pictures of zucchini with tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 83. talking to other tulpa with tulpa
Oni Ryo: 84. They can help you with staying sane in a totally insane world.
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 85. learning new things with tulpa
Spike™: 86. Taking a test with your Tulpa
Spike™: 87. Being hit on by a hot girl and your Tulpa encourages you.
♥PB♥Rainbow Derpy: 88. Driving at ludicrous speed with tulpa
Spike™: 89. Stealing with Tulpa
Spike™: 90. getting Scolded by tulpa for doing something even you knew was wrong
Spike™: 91. Scolding your tulpa for making fun of your bed head.
Spike™: 92. make fun of Tulpa bed head. (if applicable)
JJSlay(Dash): 93. tulpa always being there for you.
Spike™: 94. Having casual conversation with Tulpa.
Spike™: 95. Tulpa giving you the look of disapproval when mentioning murder.
Spike™: 96. Shooting zombies (in any shape form or fashion) with your tulpa.
Spike™: 97. Getting a birthday present from Tulpa
♥PB♥Rainbow Derpy:98. giving you tupla a bday present
Spike™: 99. Solving mysteries with your Tulpa.
Shark: 100. Having the best possible companion, friend and support, that will love you, stay with you, help you discover a whole new meaning of life, take you to places and reaches you would never get to by yourself, enrich your mental life and health, and give you a new perspective on the universe and existence as a whole. Gary was here, Ash is a loser.
Spike™: 101. making a list of 100 best things to do with your Tulpa with your Tulpa.
Lina :3: we should do
Lina :3: 100 reasons why to do a tulpa
Lina :3: :3
Shark: number one
Shark: ponies on hoodies
Lina :3: 2.Its freaking awesome
Lina :3: 3.Its still awesome
Shark: 4. ponies in leg warmers
Spike™: 5.you can now poni poni
Spike™: 6.Watching Tulpa Sleep (varies but general effect is cuteness)
Spike™: 7.Sharing Awkward moments with tulpa.
Spike™: 8. Making fun of EVERYONE you know with your tulpa in secret
Spike™: 9. having a second opinion at all times
Spike™: 10. Laughing with tulpa
Spike™: 11. being brave for seemingly no reason. but its to impress your Tulpa.
Spike™: 12. Having your Tulpa beat you at a staring contest.
Spike™: 13. knowing your bed will never be emptie at night again.
Spike™: 14. being annoyed by tulpa.
Spike™: 15. reading a good book with your tulpa
Spike™: 16. watching your favorite show with your tulpa.
Spike™: 17. Trying to figure out what to eat with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 18. Trip up and having your Tulpa laugh at you.
Spike™: 19. Something makes you and your Tulpa laugh at the same time.
Spike™: 20. Having your Tulpa remind you of something important you would have forgotten otherwise.
Spike™: 21. having your tulpa insult you for whatever reason.
Spike™: 22. making up with said Tulpa
Spike™: 23. having your tulpa get jealous of your idea to make a new tulpa.
(747) Glider: 24. someone who can smack you in the face if you fall asleep at the wrong time or during a movie
CentaurSniper: 25. someone to share happiness with when you get dubs
Spike™: 26. having your tulpa celebrate a argument win with you
Spike™: 27. not letting your tulpa look at 4chan with you.
Frosty: 28. having your tulpa be disgusted at your pornography tastes
Spike™: 29. apologizing to your tulpa for 28.
Spike™: 30. that moment your Pony Tulpa realizes your a brony and what that means, but still loves you.
Frosty: 31. that moment your tulpa likes poniponi and you don't
Spike™: 32. The moment your tulpa and you notice the same flaw in a person at the same time.
Spike™: 33. Having your Tulpa invade your dreams.
Spike™: 34. Having your tulpa know you are sexually attracted to it.
Spike™: 35. Trying to Impose other stuff for your tulpa.
Spike™: 36. Trying to impose OTHER STUFF for your tulpa. >.>
Spike™: 37. Closing the door on your Tulpa.
Spike™: 38. having to hold the door open for your Tulpa.
Spike™: 39. The first time your Tulpa sees itself on TV
Spike™: 40. Trying to hide Porn from your Tulpa
Spike™: 41. Showering with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 42. Trying to help your Tulpa forget what it saw.
Frosty: 42b. Stopping your tulpa from swooning over what she saw
Spike™: 43. Trying not to fart around your Tulpa.
Spike™: 44. your Face when your Tulpa yawns when she/he wakes up.
Spike™: 45. Partying with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 46. trying Getting your tulpa Drunk
Spike™: 47. not giving up cause your tulpa encouraged you.
Frosty: 48. tulpasex
Frosty: 49. tell your tulpa about your weirdass dreams and not have her mock you
JJSlay(Dash): 50. huggs
Spike™: 51. Sleeping with Tulpa.
Spike™: 52. Making Space in your bed for tulpa.
JJSlay(Dash): 53. tulpa tacklin you in a bear hug outa no where
Spike™: 54. Cleaning up while having a conversation with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 55. Walking Somewhere with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 56. Excersice with your Tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 57. having tulpa fly around with when you walk
JJSlay(Dash): 58. having tulpa try and steal your cookie
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 59. Generally having fun / staying up late playing vidya with tulpa
Spike™: 60. having your tulpa lose faith in humanity with you.
JJSlay(Dash): 61. tulpa knowing all your secrets
Spike™: 62. having your tulpa gain faith in humanity with you.
Spike™: 63. find out your tulpa watched you fap.
Spike™: 64. birds and bees convo with Tulpa.
Spike™: 65. Having your tulpa do something so embarrassing you yell their name out in pubic. or otherwise act out in a way you wouldn't have.
Spike™: 67. Eating a edible Tulpa. :/
Shark: 68. Having it come back unharmed :D
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 69. If you let them. they will be the only true one who will be with you until the end of time
Spike™: 70. Having your tulpa call you by your full name =.=
Spike™: 71. Gossiping with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 72. going out to eat with your Tulpa.
Spike™: 73. having your Tulpa tease you about your baby pictures.
Spike™: 74. Imposing baby Pictures of your Tulpa.
Spike™: 75. Trying to solve riddles with your Tulpa.
JJSlay(Dash): 76. listening to music with your tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 77. thinking its cute when Tulpa trys to sing the song
JJSlay(Dash): 78. watching movies with tulpa
Spike™: 79. Shopping with Tulpa
Spike™: 80. waiting in line with Tulpa.
Spike™: 81. Looking at the sunset with Tulpa
CentaurSniper: 82. looking at pictures of zucchini with tulpa
JJSlay(Dash): 83. talking to other tulpa with tulpa
Oni Ryo: 84. They can help you with staying sane in a totally insane world.
?PB?Rainbow Derpy: 85. learning new things with tulpa
Spike™: 86. Taking a test with your Tulpa
Spike™: 87. Being hit on by a hot girl and your Tulpa encourages you.
♥PB♥Rainbow Derpy: 88. Driving at ludicrous speed with tulpa
Spike™: 89. Stealing with Tulpa
Spike™: 90. getting Scolded by tulpa for doing something even you knew was wrong
Spike™: 91. Scolding your tulpa for making fun of your bed head.
Spike™: 92. make fun of Tulpa bed head. (if applicable)
JJSlay(Dash): 93. tulpa always being there for you.
Spike™: 94. Having casual conversation with Tulpa.
Spike™: 95. Tulpa giving you the look of disapproval when mentioning murder.
Spike™: 96. Shooting zombies (in any shape form or fashion) with your tulpa.
Spike™: 97. Getting a birthday present from Tulpa
♥PB♥Rainbow Derpy:98. giving you tupla a bday present
Spike™: 99. Solving mysteries with your Tulpa.
Shark: 100. Having the best possible companion, friend and support, that will love you, stay with you, help you discover a whole new meaning of life, take you to places and reaches you would never get to by yourself, enrich your mental life and health, and give you a new perspective on the universe and existence as a whole. Gary was here, Ash is a loser.
Spike™: 101. making a list of 100 best things to do with your Tulpa with your Tulpa.
Pet Pony Relisten Raw
Pet pony listen through. Notes while Trancing, attempt one.
In skype call with my boyfriend... Who wants to see the effects on me first.
Sand introduction...Volume... just below annoying. Sand induction... not my favorite, but nice. Trying to relax.
I'm on a cloud... I should be falling through, but it very comfortable. I'm going to pretend I can be on this cloud... nice voice. I'm on a cloud ship! okay, less excited. PP... go away. Twi is here... I think she will listen too. It isg etting colder. nighttime on the night.
no light conyamination.. such a bueatiful sky. ...
[I lost the ability to type for a while... This was approximately at the same time as I started to read Zephyr. The two are connected. Most of my communication afterward was in Skype.]
The calls and logs over the next few hours were interesting, although I'm afraid I may have scared or annoyed my boyfriend. Listening to the file brought out Flutters, fully separate, similar to before.
The effects were much more pronounced than before. At first my wings were hazy, but when I was told they were being petted they appeared full force, more powerful than ever before. I could feel the hugs and pets... it was incredibly comfortable. When you can't actually hug your significant other, this is the second best thing.
However, FS made the mistake of mentioning the others, and when Twi was innocently asked into the hugs that were going on, she split off from the main hybrid. As expected, the other two couldn't hold hybrid, and everypony split off. At first it was fine, but FS and Twi were making it rather obvious that they were different personalities, so RD took over to do damage control... yeah...
Long story short, I spent the next three hours explaining, holding first RD and then Twi, trying not to scare the poor guy. I think the hardest thing to get across is that I'm fully functional while a hybrid, and even happy as such. Also, that I didn't feel like I'd been hiding it from him because I didn't feel it was important... it isn't like I was planning to fully de-hybrid for the first time in two years while he was around.
Regardless. Summary of effects:
In skype call with my boyfriend... Who wants to see the effects on me first.
Sand introduction...Volume... just below annoying. Sand induction... not my favorite, but nice. Trying to relax.
I'm on a cloud... I should be falling through, but it very comfortable. I'm going to pretend I can be on this cloud... nice voice. I'm on a cloud ship! okay, less excited. PP... go away. Twi is here... I think she will listen too. It isg etting colder. nighttime on the night.
no light conyamination.. such a bueatiful sky. ...
[I lost the ability to type for a while... This was approximately at the same time as I started to read Zephyr. The two are connected. Most of my communication afterward was in Skype.]
The calls and logs over the next few hours were interesting, although I'm afraid I may have scared or annoyed my boyfriend. Listening to the file brought out Flutters, fully separate, similar to before.
The effects were much more pronounced than before. At first my wings were hazy, but when I was told they were being petted they appeared full force, more powerful than ever before. I could feel the hugs and pets... it was incredibly comfortable. When you can't actually hug your significant other, this is the second best thing.
However, FS made the mistake of mentioning the others, and when Twi was innocently asked into the hugs that were going on, she split off from the main hybrid. As expected, the other two couldn't hold hybrid, and everypony split off. At first it was fine, but FS and Twi were making it rather obvious that they were different personalities, so RD took over to do damage control... yeah...
Long story short, I spent the next three hours explaining, holding first RD and then Twi, trying not to scare the poor guy. I think the hardest thing to get across is that I'm fully functional while a hybrid, and even happy as such. Also, that I didn't feel like I'd been hiding it from him because I didn't feel it was important... it isn't like I was planning to fully de-hybrid for the first time in two years while he was around.
Regardless. Summary of effects:
- Pet Pegasus file worked much better while trancing.
- Reading Zephyr helped, although the first two chapters ... are just bad. IMHO.
- Having someone to speak to you and give you further suggestion increases the effects.
- The most potent effects wore off quickly when not in use, although the wings stayed this time (I still had them the next morning)
- The trigger wasn't used, so I still don't have a good idea of its effects.
- Seems that you can direct the 'feel anything done to you as if it was real' line toward anyone, although that may have been my interference.
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